In Episode 20 of The Good Oil Podcast, Cam talks with Free Speech Union CEO Jillaine Heather. After two decades overseas, she’s returned to a New Zealand she finds more fragile, censorious, and sliding toward the mistakes she’s seen cripple other Western nations. With blunt clarity, she warns what’s coming if we abandon robust, open debate in society.
In Episode 20 of The Good Oil Podcast, Cam sits down with Free Speech Union CEO Jillaine Heather, a forthright voice in New Zealand’s free-expression battles.
After two decades working overseas, she returned home to a country she’s increasingly disappointed in: more anxious, more censorious, and edging toward the same pitfalls she’s seen swallow other Western nations.
Jillaine unpacks regulatory overreach, cultural fragility, suppression, and why open debate matters now more than ever.
Clear-eyed and unflinching, she lays out what’s coming if New Zealand isn’t careful.